@Yaustar

[eferaga]

Hello, Yaustar, i was looking ur portfolio and looked ur qualifications,and i saw u studied a bachelor in game programing, and a master in the same, and a doubt come to my head, if i only study, engineer in computer sistems, and after that a bachelor in game develpment, can i take any programing in the industry, or i need a bachelor in game programing and a master in game programing to finish as
-Game programmer
-Senior AI Programer
-Senior Gameplay programmer
-Lead Programmer.
Etc. all the programmer works, or what do i have to study to cover the programing areas of the industry?

[yaustar]

Please use a PM if you have specific questions to posters.

My mistake was to do a Game Computing BSc rather then a standard Computer Science degree as it made me weaker in some of the fundamental areas of programming which I had to learn post-graduating.

You do not need a 'games' degree to enter the industry. You don't even need a Masters if are good enough after your Bachelors. People have entered the games industry with nothing more then a Computer Science degree.

What you have to understand is that you can enter the industry in any role regardless of the degree. It is what you know and what you can prove you know when you apply for a job that matters.

Out of all the roles you have listed, only 'Game Programmer' is an entry level role. All the others require experience hence the words 'senior' and 'lead' in the title.

[eferaga]

Very thank you for information, you always help me so much thanks a lot ^^

[Adrir]

Originally Posted by yaustar

My mistake was to do a Game Computing BSc rather then a standard Computer Science degree as it made me weaker in some of the fundamental areas of programming which I had to learn post-graduating.

Each approach has it's advantages and disadvantages. I'm doing a conventional computer science degree and I'm juggling my own personal projects, learning game specific material while doing coursework completely unrelated to the industry.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I am aware, a game-specific degree will help you develop an ability with industry-specific packages and developing a good portfolio. One of my biggest frustrations is that computer science courses are full of people who can't program at all and my timetable is so packed that without getting a team together, I barely have time to develop anything substantial beyond a simple arcade clone.

[yaustar]

Originally Posted by Adrir

One of my biggest frustrations is that computer science courses are full of people who can't program at all and my timetable is so packed that without getting a team together, I barely have time to develop anything substantial beyond a simple arcade clone.

My degree was very broad, I covered all aspects of game development during that degree and because of that, I became 'Jack of all trades, Master of none'. (In fact, a lot of students on my BSc couldn't program either which worried me).

The course didn't prepare the students enough for them to enter the games industry. However, the games orientated MSc I did afterwards, did and because of that, I got a job shortly after graduating.

I assume you want to be games programmer career wise. Games programming is still programming so I don't believe that any coursework you do is unrelated to your career path. With your final year project, you can always make it games orientated to help your portfolio.

[Adrir]

Originally Posted by yaustar

I assume you want to be games programmer career wise. Games programming is still programming so I don't believe that any coursework you do is unrelated to your career path. With your final year project, you can always make it games orientated to help your portfolio.

Yeah, programming is ace!

Although it seems not all areas of computer science are programming based. The coursework I am working on at the moment is for a HCI module which turns out to be designing a TV remote for old people!

Yeah, I'm planning to do something much more game specific for my FYP. Possibly something to do with AI (such as an advanced data-driven BT or something) or collision detection, or something. I'm thinking that if I can't get a job straight away after my degree, I may enroll on a game-specific MSc course.

[yaustar]

Originally Posted by Adrir

Although it seems not all areas of computer science are programming based. The coursework I am working on at the moment is for a HCI module which turns out to be designing a TV remote for old people!

Actually, I can see that applied to controls for your target audience. basically, by understanding what your audience can or can't do, you can program an interface or control system that would be most initiative for the player.

[eferaga]

So, where can i study good MS in something realated to game programing, good shcools any advice?

[yaustar]

Originally Posted by eferaga

So, where can i study good MS in something realated to game programing, good shcools any advice?

Which country?

[Adrir]

In the UK, for general programming, I have heard that Hull and Portsmouth have good courses. Although if you know what you want to specialise in (something alot of the developers I've spoken with seem to emphasise) it may be better to pursuit that specialisation at Masters level; for example, I hear that Essex and Edinburgh are good for AI.