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Old 05-15-2008, 04:21 PM   #11
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Yes, once you learn to think through a problem logically, you're most of the way there, all you need to do then is learn how to write what you need to do. Personally I recommend C# and Java as good languages to start at, because they are very similar to C++, making the transition easier, but any language will do. Just try investigating what you can do with each language & have fun with it. Eventually learning a new language will be relatively easy.
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Old 05-16-2008, 11:45 AM   #12
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Thanks for the free E-book on python I'm reading through it now. Chapter 1.5 and I don't feel dumb yet >.> it's quite well written for a free book. I think this book will keep me busy for a while, I've decided to stick with python to start with. I hope I can pick your collective brains in the future for more advice... though no doubt I'll be stuck soon enough lol.

On a separate note about my brothers degree. Since his degree makes him a jack of all trades, does this mean he's well.. screwed? Or could he do an MA or something to improve his chances.
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:52 PM   #13
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On a separate note about my brothers degree. Since his degree makes him a jack of all trades, does this mean he's well.. screwed? Or could he do an MA or something to improve his chances.
There are several options and bearing in mind that I don't have any idea what your brother studied, his background or even on what he wants to do, some of these may not be applicable:

- Get into the industry via QA and try to work up from there (can be extremely difficult)
- Find a role that suits Jacks of all trades such as a Level Designer or Level Scripting
- Specialise in a major discipline that he wants to do (e.g. Programming, Modeling, Animation, etc) in his own time, build up a portfolio and then apply for jobs
- Enroll into a Post-Graduate course that specialises in what he wants to do (can be expensive)

I am hoping that your brother wasn't just idling for the past two years and was working to improve his portfolio and skills by self learning. If not, that is what he should have been doing.

You may want to read I broke in the industry for a comparison: http://www.gamecareerguide.com/featu...ideo_game_.php
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Old 05-17-2008, 03:15 AM   #14
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My brother's course was a BSc Interactive Systems and Video Game Design. He came out with a 2:1 and something called a Peter Molyneux Prize for a game concept he did.

He did a BTEC in Art and Design during college, and he wants to do 3D character modeling. I've read that alot of university courses teach skills that are well out of date, and I'm sure that Bradford University is one of them lol.
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Old 05-17-2008, 07:05 AM   #15
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Does he have a portfolio that I can look at?
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Old 05-20-2008, 08:04 AM   #16
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Been talking to him about the things you've said and he's admitted his first portfolio was terrible, so he scrapped it and hasn't made a new one yet lol. Anyway back to programming, I read someones post about what maths was needed for programming. After reading it I looked up just what a quaternion was... and I cried a little inside lol.

When do I need to know about Quaternions, Matrices and Vectors? Is that like.. A-level? BSc? I'm really heavily leaning towards taking maths A level now.
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Old 05-20-2008, 08:38 AM   #17
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You should at least know how to use and apply matrix and vector math. With quaternions, it is usually enough how to apply them unless you start doing anything that heavily requires them (graphics and physics programming for example).

I am not sure what level it is (I think it is A-Level) but there are plenty of articles and books out there that will teach the material regardless of level.
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Old 05-20-2008, 08:54 AM   #18
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Damn your quick o.o; Hmm... I guess I'll look for some books that explains them in more simple terms than what I've seen so far, thanks again.

Edit: Since I'm already behind in education (I should be starting Uni now if I was on time) I was thinking about doing an A-level or two online. I've seen ads on TV for it, ICS and so on, and I've checked out the site... You think it would be wise to do an online A-level alongside college ones? Online A-levels take a year, college take two. ><
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Old 05-22-2008, 12:50 PM   #19
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My BSc degree was a "Jack of all Trades" one, and my games career has progressed quite happily. Others on my course (even some with better grades) havn't managed to break in, but that's mainly based on their spare time ventures. In my spare time I created 2 persistent web browser based games, I took additional web courses covering various game dev subjects, and basically lived games dev (also I'd been learning to program games since I was 11 years old) . They on the other hand tended to spend their spare time playing games & having a social life. Not sure who won in the short run, but I'm quickly gaining ground on the social life sector!

The route I took to get in the industry after leaving uni was to go straight into several game scripting projects (freelance) followed by entering a Mobile phone games publisher as QA, then after learning j2me (never looked at it or java before then) moved into the programming team. Since leaving Uni, I've had the honor to work on some legendary games, including Tetris, Lemmings, Sonic the Hedgehog, Pac-Man and Ridge Racer... so no, I wouldn't say your brother is screwed, unless he doesn't put the effort in.

Another thing you may be interested in is the following website http://www.gameinstitute.com/ I signed up for a couple of their courses a few years back which proved particularly useful when I decided to dig into the specifics of graphics engines. The entire first textbook of the directx engine programming (about 80 pages) was about engine theory, Dot-Product, Cross-product, Matrices, Transformation pipelines etc. If your Maths is bad, I believe they have a Games Maths course that you can take too (I've not seen it though so can't comment on the quality). The prices have gone up quite a bit since I last went there, but I can still log in & access the resources , and they really did provide a lot.
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:57 PM   #20
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Edit: Since I'm already behind in education (I should be starting Uni now if I was on time) I was thinking about doing an A-level or two online. I've seen ads on TV for it, ICS and so on, and I've checked out the site... You think it would be wise to do an online A-level alongside college ones? Online A-levels take a year, college take two. ><
This, I am not sure about. I would have to recommend you see a careers councillor.
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